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updated March 18th, 2000
     
 

WML or XML?
Comments about delivery to wireless devices

 
     
 
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David,

In my wanderings around the web recently, I came across a site which employs the portal design you discussed in your recent paper.

http://www.librius.com/ is a seller of eBooks. From the consumer's point of view, they are a general bookstore where the stock is available for download to any of a range of handheld computers and PDAs. You can create an account with them and buy the rights to download books to your PDA

Behind the scenes, Librius Inc. receive their content from publishers and authors in a standardised XML format. (The eBook XML DTD is available from http://www.openebook.org/). They then repackage that content in formats suitable for each of the devices they support, and supply XML document readers to run on these devices.

This looks like a good working example of a portal site where the content providers can concentrate on producing the content, and the portal can concentrate on providing services to the consumer.

Brian O'Byrne

Developer,
ebeon
brian.obyrne@ebeon.com
Tel: +353 1 2061589

 
 
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My ex-colleague David Bye writes from Singapore...

David,

As someone who has developed and implemented a WAP WML solution I feel Ive got some creditibility in commenting.

I think youve been in Texas too long !!!!!

Have you any experience in how the WAP solution works ? I just dont see how standardising on XML by content providers is likely to solve some of the current issues with implementation.

There are two key reasons why content aggregators have to do the WML presentation and not the content providers. The first is a sound business reason - Branding. The second is a Usability reason - Consistency. Both reasons are mutually dependent.

Youve made a leap that its the aggregators who want to brand and not the content providers. This would be a significant change to the current business models being operated today - and generally not desired by the content provider.

You are right on the consistency, but thats like saying we should operate the internet through portals - and luckily the world is already moving on from that bit of castrated thought.

Not to mention the security exposure that's opened up by such an implementation (geez imagine if yahoo could see your banking password and account information....Im afraid, based on the WAP specs, youre suggestion would lead to this ???) In fact the secuirty hole is so big that a number of content providers are already looking to have their own "WAP Sever" directly accessible.

Its also unlcear how in the suggested model you deal with unsolicited pushing of information from the content provider ?

I guess the Oracle Panama product is what you see the world heading to...where the content providers send to Oracle and Oracle is responsible for the channel management. I saw this working prior to GA - since they wanted my firm to use it for their WAP service - the demo highlights the business limitations and chaos this model implements.

Regards,

David

Hi David,

Nice to hear from you. How is Singapore? I see from your note that the bank got the WAP Banking solution up-and-running.

You raise several interesting points. I will try to address some of them.

Yes. I am suggesting that Wireless Carriers want to be Content Aggregators and they do want to brand. They want to "own" the customer. This is certainly true in the North American market. The Carriers have a vision of WAP phones being sold where the user has a single bookmwark to the portal and that is all. Everything is sourced through the carrier portal site.

There are now several WAP Server and Portal products on the market which carriers can buy, configure and use to provide such services.

Doubtless there will still be original content where the brand "shines" through the translucent layer provided in the Carrier portal. This is known as "Home Deck Deal" where the Content Providers pays to get a placement on the Home Deck of the Carrier Portal.

Perhaps, you are seeing a different business model in Asia but I am calling it as I see it in the US market.

You raise a good point about security. I confess that I really know little on this topic. However, my guess is that you can find a method of implementing which doesn't involve passing the bank account number and PIN around as http parameters. My Web MVC model described in the White Papers at this site might be one architectural approach to take toward a solution of this problem.

As for unsolicited "pushing" of material from the Content Provider, well the Carriers don't want them doing that. The Carrier wants to control that and charge for it. They want to be taking the advertising revenue.

What we are watching is an emerging power struggle. Talk at the recent CTIA show in New Orleans was centered around whether traditional portals such as Yahoo have a future. Many Carriers think not. The bigger ones are playing for the prize of replacing Yahoo as the main internet portal for this decade.

It will be very interesting to see how things work out. Meanwhile, I believe that while big business engages in a power struggle the consumer will lose as usability suffers.

David

 

 
 
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David

The blue text inside the diagrams are too small and blurry when read from my standard config solaris netscape 4.7 . Its not me - its your page. I write software and have been on the net for years. take care,

http://www.stensland.net/java/erin.html

Scott Stensland

 

 
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Hi David

Where on your site can I view and comment on others comments?

BTW, I read the XML/WML article and you are dead right. There will be distinct content providers and presentation packagers. However, it will be an n-tier world, and content aggregation and content privision will be performed simultaneuosly, by the same entities and are pretty much indivisible. While initially, presenters will try to be aggregators, I suspect this is not a stable model. And presenters will become pure presenters in a world of heterogenous devices where each has its own presentation requirements.

Phil Bradley

 

 
 
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Hi David

I've posted some quick thoughts on this article on the home page of my website: http://redmonk.editthispage.com/

Ciao

Steve

 

 
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Hi David

I've just read your article on WML/XML, and I totally agree!

I'm pleased to see that someone else has made the paradigm shift from application-oriented to data-oriented design; the data needs to be the primary focus, not the application. At my previous employer, this was a conclusion we came to almost 5 years ago now - although our motivation was compatibility and marketability to a wider audience rather than anything specifically UI-driven.

It's nice to see the same idea from a different angle. Standardisation of data formats is certainly the 'big thing' in set top box applications right now.

Regards,

Chris Pitts

 

 
 
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